Israel
“Congratulations on history’s greatest comeback! Your historic return to the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America. This is a huge victory! In true friendship,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted on social media platform X.
Iran
The livelihoods of Iranians will not be affected by the US election, government spokeswoman Fatemeh Mohajerani told reporters after a cabinet meeting in Tehran.
“The US elections are not really our business. Our policies are steady and don’t change based on individuals. We made the necessary predictions before and there will not be change in people’s livelihoods,” she said.
Hamas
Trump’s victory puts to test his earlier statements that he can stop the war in Gaza within hours, Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told the Reuters news agency. The Democratic party’s loss is the natural price for its leadership’s “criminal stance” towards Gaza, Abu Zuhri said, adding that “we urge Trump to learn from [US President Joe] Biden’s mistakes.”
China
“Our policy towards the US is consistent,” Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Mao Ning said at a news briefing.
“We will continue to view and handle China-US relations in accordance with the principles of mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation,” she added.
Ukraine
“I appreciate President Trump’s commitment to the ‘peace through strength’ approach in global affairs. This is exactly the principle that can practically bring just peace in Ukraine closer,” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy wrote on X.
United Kingdom
Prime Minister Keir Starmer said, “Congratulations President-elect Trump on your historic election victory. I look forward to working with you in the years ahead. As the closest of allies, we stand shoulder to shoulder in defence of our shared values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.”
NATO
Secretary-General Mark Rutte: “I just congratulated Donald Trump on his election as President of the United States. His leadership will again be key to keeping our Alliance strong. I look forward to working with him again to advance peace through strength through NATO.”
European Union
“The EU and the US are more than just allies. We are bound by a true partnership between our people, uniting 800 million citizens,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said. “So let’s work together on a strong transatlantic agenda that keeps delivering for them.”
India
Congratulating Trump on a “historic election victory”, Prime Minister Narendra Modi posted on X that “as you build on the successes of your previous term, I look forward to renewing our collaboration to further strengthen the India-US Comprehensive Global and Strategic Partnership.”
Russia
“Trump has one useful quality for us: as a businessman to the core, he mortally dislikes spending money on various hangers-on and stupid hanger-on allies, on bad charity projects and on voracious international organisations,” former President Dmitry Medvedev posted on the Telegram messaging app.
At a certain point I have to admit that I’m the asshole here for continuing to be on the side of Team Humanity.
Every single one of them is telling on themselves.
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At least the war in Ukraine might come to an end. As for Arabs and Muslims we already got a genocide with Biden, Trump can only increase the intensity of it but who knows what the crazy maniac will do.
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I don’t think these are analyses of Palestine & Ukraine outcomes, I think they’re doomer vibes. I don’t have a crystal ball, but Western Ukraine as a rump state seems like the most likely outcome.
IF the elections are rigged by the MIC to wrap fait accompli into a cohesive and digestable narrative, the surrender of Ukraine is one of those things that might have required Trump at the helm for it to be believable. He’s anti-China and anti-Arab so he can just as easily maintain the existing war drives, but he’s also the cover necessary to let Ukraine fall and continue the hollowing out of Europe.
I don’t think they’re rigged. But if they were…
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Goodbye United States of America. I weep for everyone everywhere.
Nothing of value will be lost
Only millions of people that were simply born in the wrong place. Only a world superpower potentially turning into an autocratic regime in support of other tyrants.
But sure, other than the existential threat of the largest exporter of culture and most powerful military on earth in a country that has a history of imperialism and warmongering falling under the control of an autocratic regime of fascists, sure. Nothing of value.
what do you mean turning into, it already was all of what you just said… also for the second paragraph, it would have also been true under Harris.
I understand your scared, however that should not be a reason to devorce yourself from the material reality of the situation
Good riddance to the genocide factory and can we roll a new character now please
Oh if this is going to dissolve the USA then that’s good
Lemmygrad is pro-Trump, got it.
you may be illiterate. lemmygrad is anti-U.S. and trump is dumb enough to cause potentially fatal harm to the empire.
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“but how could the 0.001% of u.s. citizens who are communists do this???”
“Leave me out of your suicide cult,” they say while literally perpetuating the suicide cult of capitalism and posting a cute little bicycle meme completely oblivious to the hypocrisy, projection, and irony.
You can’t make this shit up, folks.
I honestly would have thought it was a bit making fun of dipshit libs if they hadn’t gone mask off in other comments and proving once again the validity of the “scratched liberal” saying.
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my pronouns are right in my name. don’t “bro” me.
i’m not “happy about self harm”, that’s obviously silly. i just value the lives of non-u.s. citizens. any weakening of the united states will mean a chance for other nations to finally be free of our boot on their neck.
Nice rofile picture!
Then how am I reading, huh? You just like insulting people, don’t you?
That’s still a form of being pro-Trump.
it’s not as insulting to call you illiterate as it is for you to claim a communist is pro-trump. i’m just responding in kind.
it’s not, and plainly so, but you are just going to label anything other than uncritical support for blue team “pro-trump”. i’m sorry your team decided supporting genocide mattered more than winning votes.
I’m not even American, it says so in my username. Maybe you’re illiterate.
a majority of people in the u.s. are, so it’s certainly not outside the realm of possibility.
and you don’t need to be from a place to claim its team as yours. people do it with sports all the time. this is no different. but fine: i’m sorry blue team decided supporting genocide mattered more than winning votes.
Shitty bait is shitty.
I guess it’s bait, in that I was hoping for a response, but isn’t that exactly what was said here? The downvotes make me think the rest of you agree, too. I’m not trying to be a dick.
the destruction of America in any form other than total global annihilation is an enormous and unequivocal positive
Trump getting elected isn’t positive, we do not like trump, however if this directly causes the complete collapse of the united states then I’m all for it
So a net positive? Like, I hear you that you don’t agree with everything he says or like him personally, but it sounds like you prefer (aka support) this outcome.
No not really, I said it’s only positive if it ends up with the complete destruction of the US, which until that happens means it’s not positive. It’s a retroactive positive, it only counts if it happens, I’m not doing rhetorical trickery or arguing in bad faith, that’s just my take on things. Genocidal racist fascist red team VS genocidal racist fascist blue team makes no functional difference in the material conditions of most people in the world, shit would be no better under kamalas reich
OP said “America will disappear” and that they will “weep” over it. I said America disappearing is a good thing.
I read “weep for everyone everywhere” as more of a “newly fascist US is going to mess the rest of the world up” sort of thing, not as an “everyone loves America” sort of thing. And then you came in with accelerationism.
(Yes, yes, I know. They were already Nazis in your opinion, or whatever)
I’m not doing acceleration. You libs really gotta figure out the difference between the layers of reality. This is happening. I didn’t vote for Trump. I didn’t advocate for Trump to be elected on the grounds that it would accelerate collapse. But here we are. It’s happening. I’m not going to fucking weep for America. That doesn’t make me an accelerationist.
“Newly fascist US” is pretty ridiculous when you consider the 1939 Nazi rally at MSG in NYC, Operation Paperclip, Operation Gladio, the USA selecting former Nazi officers to lead NATO, Hitler’s explicit writings in Mein Kampf of following the American model of indigenous genocide, black slavery, and apartheid, the USA’s repeated veto of the UN resolution to condemn the worshiping of Nazis, the neverending free-speech protections of white supremacist and neonazis simultaneous with the neverending police murder and brutality of black and brown people, etc, etc, etc.
And Canada doesn’t get a pass on this either. They, too, glorify Nazis while raping and murdering indigenous people.
Weep for America… fuck right off.
Imagine believing there is a difference between two genocidal candidates.
Yeah what exactly about America do you think is changing here?
The rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people.
An unimpeded conservative government will roll back human rights that took us decades to earn.
Trump elected supreme court officials necessary to defeat roe v wade. He put the people in power capable of rolling those rights back.
Women’s rights is just the beginning. Every member of American society will have their basic human rights threatened during this term.
Why on God’s green fucking earth would you think that only the rhetoric is different? Please answer this question and do not skip it.
So a genocide is not a redline for you?
I didn’t mention genocide… why do you think it isn’t a redline for me? can you explain how you got there, mentally?
Imagine thinking it will be any better under Trump
It won’t be, but at least liberals will oppose the genocide now
An unimpeded conservative government will roll back human rights that took us decades to earn.
Sounds like a fundamentally broken and unfixable system if the work of literal generations for things that are internationally recognized as correct can be undone in a couple of years.
Trump elected supreme court officials necessary to defeat roe v wade
The Ds had multiple opportunities to address this. They punted on all of them, from making nominations to rejecting nominations to expanding the court. They chose exactly none of these options over the last 12 years.
He put the people in power capable of rolling those rights back.
No he didn’t. Congress did.
Women’s rights is just the beginning. Every member of American society will have their basic human rights threatened during this term.
They all have been already. Did you forget McCarthyism? How about the black felon rate? The black incarceration rate? The national incarceration rate? Slave labor? (California voted overwhelmingly to maintain prison slave labor) How about disparate health outcomes for non-whites? Educational outcomes? Wealth outcomes? Homelessness?
Every member of American society has had their basic human rights threatened for the last 200 years except for that still quite small group of white people.
Why on God’s green fucking earth would you think that only the rhetoric is different? Please answer this question and do not skip it.
Because the Kamala literally said the only difference between her and Biden would be that she would appoint a Republican to her cabinet? Because Pelosi said we want a strong Republican party? Because the Ds have done literally nothing to stop this so-called “threat to democracy”? Because under Biden solitary confinement of migrants, including infants and toddlers, increased? Because Kamala told migrants “Don’t come”? Because military surplus being transferred to domestic police continued unabated under Biden? Because the foreign policy continues to be destruction and devastation and nuclear brinksmanship regardless of party in charge? Because there are no solutions to the economic crises that protect the ideology of privatization? Because the Ds have had multiple opportunities in the last 40 years to codify Roe into law and chose not to so they could continue campaigning on the issue? Because the Ds will tell you to your face that the Rs are rabid fascist authoritarians and then still go to lunch with them, high five them on the legislative floor, and have dance parties? Because the Ds and Rs come together on the regular to feed the war machine and the money machine, even to the point of bypassing the filibuster temporarily during the exact same session where the Ds said they can do nothing about the filibuster?
Because all of the fucking evidence is that literally the only difference is the lens you’re looking through and where and how the harm falls and how it sounds when it falls?
I’m willing to try one more time with you. After that, I’ll need to reclaim my time and be productive where I can.
Your point was that after electing Trump, the only thing that changes is “rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people”, and I disagreed by citing examples of how our rights were rolled back during his previous term. This means I am saying, “you’re wrong - it’s not just rhetoric that changes. It’s also our rights as Americans.”
I understand that you’re severely critical of the Democratic party, but are you really willing to say that the only measurable change to our society during a second Trump term is rhetoric? It’s going to get a lot of people killed, man. You should care about that.
I won’t get pulled into the weeds with you. Either backpedal or admit that you were wrong, or I’m leaving the conversation.
I’m willing to try one more time with you.
Oh how gracious! Thank you!
Your point was that after electing Trump, the only thing that changes is “rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people”, and I disagreed by citing examples of how our rights were rolled back during his previous term. This means I am saying, “you’re wrong - it’s not just rhetoric that changes. It’s also our rights as Americans.”
Yeah, I’m aware. And as it turns out ALL of the things you can cite for Trump are ALSO things you can cite for NOT TRUMP, as I did by citing examples of how our rights are rolled back, attacked, diminished, and destroyed under prior administrations including Biden’s.
This means I am saying “our rights” are constantly being harmed regardless of who is in office and that the only thing that changes is the framing and lens, which includes the rhetoric as well as the particular strategies of harm that result in harm being targeted in specific ways. It’s not less harm under Democrats, it’s not less harm under NOT TRUMP, it’s just different framing.
I understand that you’re severely critical of the Democratic party
If that’s your understanding, then you’re not understanding. I’m severely critical of the entire American project along its entire continuum of existence and absolutely every single leader that has ever been elected. I’ll take that one step further so you understand how far off you are - I denounce the entirety of the colonial system that gave birth to and is continued by the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the rest of the British Commonwealth abroad, and the foreign holdings of all European countries, their leaders, their parties-in-power, their owning classes, and their supporting militaries, academies, religious institutions, and NGOs.
Do you get it now?
but are you really willing to say that the only measurable change to our society during a second Trump term is rhetoric? It’s going to get a lot of people killed, man. You should care about that.
I CHALLENGE you to attempt to catalog the number of people who died as a result of each administration for the last 20 administrations and see if you can find ANY evidence that who is president matters at all along that dimension. Clinton bombed Yugoslavia. Bush destroyed Iraq. Obama destroyed Libya. The Afghanistan affair spanned 20 fucking year. Ukraine is the direct result of the US arming and training Ukraine and expanding nuclear NATO as part of a project that started under Clinton. Trump literally was the first president to approve arms transfers to Ukraine as part of the escalation ladder that led to Biden overseeing the continued expansion of NATO. But it was under Obama that John McCain ® and Victoria Nuland (?D?) went to Ukraine to participate in the violent transfer of power that started with training and organizing fascists and ended with Right Sector storming the capitol with gun drawn.
And that’s to say nothing of the non-stop destruction of water, land, and food of the indigenous people across the Americas, the residential schools that were overseen by both parties over many decades, the forced sterilization overseen by both parties over many decades, the incarceration and ensnaring-in-poverty of the black population overseen by both parties over many decades.
I won’t get pulled into the weeds with you. Either backpedal or admit that you were wrong, or I’m leaving the conversation.
What the fuck kind of discourse do you think this is where what I want is to continue a conversation with someone who thinks they are fundamentally correct without doubt and simultaneously believes their engagement is so desirable that withdrawing it is an effective gambit.
Fuck off
My time is valuable to me and I won’t surrender it to someone incapable of healthy, respectful discourse. You’re blocked. Have a day.
The president. Try and keep up!
It is not like we had a genocide under the Democrats…
If you don’t think Trump will actively accelerate that you’re deluding yourself.
And whose fault the genocide lasted until the next president? it is not like the Biden administration vetoed two ceasefires at the UN.
I wouldn’t say all of them. This is a great day for Putin and Netanyahu.
I am Brazilian and I react to this by saying: “You, United-Statesians mess up, then the shit goes to the sewer and fall on us.”
Maybe this time we can improve our reflex and dodge this shit like Neo
Not a bad idea!
We are our own devils and we make this world our hell.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
Israel “Congratulations on history’s greatest comeback! Your historic return to the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America. This is a huge victory! In true friendship,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted on social media platform X.
So in other words, a Trump win makes things even worse for Gaza. Where have I heard that before?? 🤔
Maybe the Dems could have differentiated themselves on policy towards Israel. Rather than supporting a genocidal regime that clearly wanted them to lose.
Well at least we made sure to give the genocidal regime that clearly wanted Trump in the whitehouse what they wanted. I’m sure that will bring some positive change.
“Congratulations on history’s greatest comeback! Your historic return to the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America. This is a huge victory! In true friendship,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted on social media platform X.
Its not like all the athorities in Gaza called for a boycot of democrats… oh wait they did
Huh? What does that mean?
They requested voters not vote for democrats
Who is we?
The party can’t fail, the party can only be failed.
The Democrats fucked this up. They tried to scare and shame people into voting for them while providing nothing. Weird how that didn’t work.
Who is we?
The electorate?
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There is no worse.
Oh I think you’ll just need to wait a short while to see whether that statement is true.
Nope, genocide is genocide. If you support and enable a little, you enable all of it. It doesn’t stop. Under Biden Israel and the US have expanded their genocide from just Palestinians to all nearby arabs. Trump will allow further expansion, the dem elected after Trump with expand it further, until the US is destroyed or fascism wins and the global world government resulting from it is destroyed.
Well thank goodness we elected the leader who can’t be reasoned with instead of the one who might have been able to be reasoned with. Plus now we can get all the domestic abuse we can eat, which we’d have skipped out on entirely with Harris.
Why do you people think you could negotiate with Harris? Biden and the Dems leadership have done nothing but override popular positions. The beloved vp of the Harris campaign, the most progressive actual dem to ever run for that position, fucking called the military on civilians instead of doing anything about police brutality in his state.
Also if you’re willing to accept genocide on the idea you might be spared if you do, you’re a Nazi. That was the Nazi excuse. “We need to kill them so we can be spared.”
You libs are deeply unserious. How the fuck can Kamala be reasoned with? The same Copmala that said the US army needs to be the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.
Also, THE DEMOCRATS FUNDED THE GENOCIDE.
Hitler 1 and Hitler 2 cannot be reasoned with.
the one who might have been able to be reasoned with
You misunderstand the Democrats’ foreign policy if you think this.
Read a few books on international relations by members of the Biden-Harris administration and their mentors, friends, and predecessors. They are ideologically committed to US supremacy and hegemony internationally, at whatever cost. Broadly, this ideological tendency is called liberal (as in capitalist) internationalism and it is about preserving the “rules based” international order in which the U.S. is explicitly to remain indefinitely as the world’s sole hegemonic power. In this world view, the US is in the unique position of being able to be the arbiter of world affairs, due to its post-WII economic and military might and advantageous geographical position (easy access to both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans and lack of powerful neighbors) providing the US an unprecedented ability to govern worldwide. This supposedly makes the US the “only” world power capable of preserving international “peace” so long as no rival power is allowed to rise, particularly in Eurasia. The rise of a rival power to US hegemony is seen as a disastrous outcome because it will (supposedly) plunge the world back into WWI-style chaos. Overall, in their view, “order” (unipolarity) is superior to “chaos” (multipolarity), and “US-led order” is superior to all other forms of order, as in their view the US-led order is the only order capable of enforcing world peace, which they absurdly claim is what the US has been doing all this time since WWII.
One of the reasons they hate Trump so much is that he’s not from this ideological school; he’s an opportunist first and foremost and therefore has a chaotic effect on this US-dominated international order’s strategic imperatives. Trump can only be reasoned with on the basis of his opportunism, which will basically follow the whims of himself and his cronies, whatever those whims may be. The liberal internationalists can only be reasoned with in the framework of the long-term viability of US global hegemony, and their behaviors and goals are relatively more predictable as they have their own body of theory explaining all of that, which we can read (for example in the works of Brzezinski of the Carter administration, or Blinken of the current administration). To them, Trump is like a drunk driver who grabbed the wheel of the empire, because of his “America First” policies which they regard as short-sighted in that they play on various populist demands while ignoring and in some regards rejecting international “responsibility” of managing world affairs and suppressing rivals, (potentially) endangering the empire’s long-term stability. He messes up their timetables, finances, and commitments, that’s really the only thing about him they truly can’t abide. The fascist society he wants at home is the one they already created for others abroad, and which already has long existed for many at home regardless. Their “fear” is that the system of global US dominance they created will crash before they can get it back on track. They really do not care about the fascism part, which will not really affect them like it affects normal citizens.
This is all to say that “reasoning” with Democrats over Gaza would always have been impossible. Throughout the decades, they have dragged their feet on the issue, shedding a crocodile tear or two when the situation looks too bloody in the international spotlight, making tactical concessions occasionally, but all ultimately with a long-term strategy of allowing Palestine to be gradually whittled down, in which their ideal is that Palestinians stop resisting and Israel is ultimately triumphant in its suppression of Palestinian sovereignty and the issue conveniently “goes away” forever, a past tragedy they can pretend to be sad about while enjoying some newfound financial flexibility when it comes to the costs of maintaining and upgrading their unsinkable aircraft carrier Israel. Blinken didn’t give a damn about Palestinians in 1982, he essentially wrote that even though Israel was aiding a bit of massacres here and there it was still just a baby democracy that needs our support, and surely “someday” would be held accountable for its excesses. And now? Blinken is Secretary of State, giving Netanyahu a hug and requesting more funds for genocide and dressing his kid up as Zelensky for a Halloween party the next day. With people like this peppering every Dem administration’s top leadership for decades, whose careers all began long ago and whose records of views and behaviors are there for all of us to see, and likewise with their neocon friends, cousins, and business partners in every Republican administration salivating over war with Iran, the prospects of “reasoning” with any of them over Palestine are pretty much zero.
Biden could be reasoned with then? That’s what’s implied here? 1 year and one month of genocide were not enough to reason with anyone in the democratic party. There was nothing Netanyahu asked for and didn’t get, but somehow it wasn’t bad enough for you people. There ya go
Harris? reasoned with? I’m sure you said the same about Biden and we got a genocide in the end.
Fascists like fascists.
Biden was already genociding them. Before you blame Trump, don’t forget Biden could have stopped it at any time and chose not to.
Trump’s victory puts to test his earlier statements that he can stop the war in Gaza within hours, Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told the Reuters news agency. The Democratic party’s loss is the natural price for its leadership’s “criminal stance” towards Gaza, Abu Zuhri said, adding that “we urge Trump to learn from [US President Joe] Biden’s mistakes.”
He’s gonna let Israel glass you, you dumb fuck!
Love the NATO ass kissing when Trump was threatening to leave NATO previously
“I appreciate President Trump’s commitment to the ‘peace through strength’ approach in global affairs. This is exactly the principle that can practically bring just peace in Ukraine closer,” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy wrote on X.
Zelenskyy will say whatever he needs to in order to try to retain as much US support as possible.
Not likely to work, but it’s a pragmatic take. If someone is threatening to cut off your support, don’t threaten them back, otherwise it’s a done deal.
I think they will cut some support, but not all of it. The results is that Europe has to step it up, meaning European military industrial complex needs to step up, meaning US companies will lose money… and Donnie boy is all about that scrilla.
They’re trading rice for NK troops, this shitbag is going to offer them Javelins and Abrams at half price if they have gold paint. I legitimately believe this election will cost many Ukrainian lives
Canada
Nervously looking out the window to see what their crazy neighbor is going to do next
Bro we’re gunna elect the nastiest little sycophant dweeb if people don’t get out and stop it. The neevousness you feel is anyone here left with two braincells to knock together wondering just how bad it’s gunna be now that the bar is in Hell’s basement.
(Also if Canadians don’t vote in our election I hope they fucking die and I’m done acting like I’m joking. I won’t do it, but I still have hope)
I mean there’s a 99% chance Pierre wins.
I’m already stockpiling my porn so he can’t take it away from me. Will be horrifying to see whatever digital ID spying system he comes up with. So much for being anti-overreach and pro-freedom.
I mean there’s a 99% chance Pierre wins.
Sadly true.
Hopefully we can at least hold him to a minority.
Given how allergic the conservatives seem to be (since at least Harper’s days) about working cooperatively with any other party, a minority parliament ought to be able to minimize the damage. I hope.
Yea I love that. They genuinely thought it was cheating that the government was working together to get equal representation. They would rather get a 51% majority and ignore 49% of the country and if that doesn’t show how absolutely worthless they are as people I don’t know what would.
Canada
About to do the same thing
The crazy neighbor, with a collection of 700 guns who likes to talk about how they’re better than everyone else and nobody understands them.
Yep, this is going to be rocky.
Link?
It’s not true, our slimeball prime minister greased on right up to Trump. Unless poster is referring to another politician which doesn’t represent NZ as a whole.
Hamas
Trump’s victory puts to test his earlier statements that he can stop the war in Gaza within hours, Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told the Reuters news agency. The Democratic party’s loss is the natural price for its leadership’s “criminal stance” towards Gaza, Abu Zuhri said, adding that “we urge Trump to learn from [US President Joe] Biden’s by
Yeah, that’s not gonna go the way you think it is…
If they thought the arms shipments coming in before were fucking their day up…The only reason Israel might not glass Gaza when Trump takes power is that they want to move people in after the “unclean” have been erased.
They know this, but all his failures will need huge spotlights on them. He wasn’t vague about it and now it’s time to do this magic he claimed he could do.
If he got re-elected, is that going to work?
What? He did get re-elected, that’s the point of the post, and the comment was because he made an incredibly bold and easily falsifiable claim so we’re saying “go on then, make the peace deal you promises already”.
And I’m responding to that claim asking, based on his first term, do we really think holding his feet to the fire on this is going to work?
No, but it still needs to be said.
This! And the fcking idiots who used their votes to throw a temper tantrum about Harris/Walz’s stance on Gaza are in a high likelihood of having violence enacted against them in the states or flat-out getting deported. Like they were always high on the target list, do they not remember Trump’s muslim ban? Again, stupid fking idiots who slit their own throats in protest so they could get the shoes of the people they’re angry at messy. What they’ve done is ineffective, beyond short-sighted, and self-harming. Guess we get to see if Israel decides to rip down Al-Aqsa, replace it with a Third Temple now. Wouldn’t put it past them.
Harris would have written a strongly worded letter, trump will write a supportive tweet. Both had the same policy on Gaza and Israel.
Thats what you people fail to understand. Genocide doesn’t get better. There isn’t a lesser evil option that contains genocide.
Biden is a genocidal fascist. Harris promised to be a genocidal fascist for the majority of her campaign. Trump is a genocidal fascist.
You’re just angry you might also be a victim, instead of the browns you think are too stupid, too subhuman, to understand their words and actions.
The issue isn’t how people used their votes. The issue is that 20 million people didn’t show up to vote.
With the math available, every single Democratic voter could have voted 3rd party and Trump would still have won. Third party voters had little to no effect on this election, outside of those who were swaying to say don’t vote at all. 50 to 100 thousand third party votes from each state just don’t make the numbers needed for the E.C. votes.
We needed voters, period. They didn’t show up.
Don’t blame the left for the failings of the moderate right. Just like Biden before her, Harris spent the campaign appealing to theoretical disenfranchised Republicans and confidently ignoring the calls for action from the left. She even abandoned some of Bidens more left leaning campaign promises along the way (her climate policy was a clear back step). On top of that we had no primary, which however flawed, shapes the campaign in the image of the some voters and solidifies support for the candidate.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the two candidates were equivalent, but it is easy to see why people might be feeling disenfranchised and might just not vote, and elect instead to hide from it all.
Anecdotally, I stopped engaging with election news around the dem primary, when everyone was very excited, so I could vote for Harris without thinking about the baggage that would come later. It was all just overwhelming, and I’d call myself a pretty engaged and resilient voter normally.
All that to say, remember the humans who voted or didnt are the ones with ethics and empathy. I’m not sure you can say the same about the ones who voted for the fascist.
it is easy to see why people might be feeling disenfranchised and might just not vote
And now they get to see the results of their letting perfect get in the way of good.
What is with this “They” pansy-ass scapegoat bullshit I keep seeing from all these political extremism comments?
