Welcome to apple_enthusiast, where most of the comments seem to come from people that haven’t had iOS as a daily driver since the iPhone 3 or 4.
My gf has an iPhone 14 which I bought for her. I’ve had to use it several times and I hate the damn thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Exactly. Most of the comments here are not from people daily driving these experiences.
I feel like most people here are just sliding in from c/all
I also worked in software QA with iOS devices for 4 years. Does that make my opinion more “legitimate”?
iOS is like using an operating system with parental controls and it sucks ass.
Yeah, that’s more experience than occasionally using your partner’s phone. That said, when I QA my apps on a test phone, I tend to use it very differently than if it was out and about with the phone. I’m primarily staying within the confines of the software I’m developing.
Maybe you’re different, but I’m usually not downloading apps and spending hours on the phone outside of the stuff I’m pushing.
When I was doing that I often had to get screenshots/videos that I needed to report the issues and sharing files in iOS sucks if you’re not using their ecosystem. We’re in 2024 and you can’t just plug your iphone to a usb port and just view the damn files on the thing.
They’ve been doing scummy stuff since forever. Like when the iPod touch 2nd gen had Bluetooth but you could only use it for the retarded Nike+ features some shoes had back then. It was inaccesible if you wanted to share files for example. Back then it was also a new “feature” when they finally decided to let people use a custom wallpaper.
Seriously, Apple is a like the capitalist equivalent of a toxic relationship. Maybe this video better illustrates my point.
You can import photos directly, over USB, via the stock photos apps in Windows or MacOS.
On Windows: Start > photos > import > from a usb device
My point remains, a lot of the comments here are people that seems to be ranting about something that they don’t spend much time with at all, and according to this community’s name, this is apparently a user group of “apple enthusiasts.”
You do realize that you’re telling me to use an “app” when it would be a lot easier if it just showed up as an external drive in the file explorer, right? Not to mention that media is just an example. What if I want to use it as a thumbdrive for random files? It’s very stupid limitation and there’s no way to justify it.
this is apparently a user group of “apple enthusiasts.”
enthusiast =/= blind
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What part? Genuinely curious as I enjoy both. Only thing I actively despise is the inability to natively use manual focus
For me it’s that and the lack of a default native keyboard with a number line!
The number line is very cool. I do miss that, as well as long-pressing any key to get the character located “behind” it.
Wild. I switched to an iPhone when my partner got one, because I hated all of the Android keyboards I had ever tried (and Swype) felt like garbage to me. I came from an OG HTC Dream, the first-ass Android phone and had physical keyboards all the way up until typing on their iPhone 4s. Ever since then, I’ve hated touchscreen keyboards WAY less. It does help to use the gigantic iPhone version too, and set all my dumb shit I say in shortcuts.
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I wish there was something solid like the zen phone 9 when I was looking to buy a new phone. I went with the iPhone 13 pro hoping it would last me at least 5 years, since Apple tends to be pretty good about their software longevity. I like android but I wasn’t about to switch to a Samsung because I just don’t like the weird “look we made our own app, now you have two browsers!”
My longest lasting Android was the moto Z4 i had just before getting my iPhone 14 pro. The Z4 had stopped being updates like two, if not 3 years prior to the switch. And when it did get a security update it was from 9 months prior or something. I used to do the custom ROM and flash daily-weekly, but then someone stops updating your ROM and you have to find another, to me apple has been a great switch. Again, just miss Gboard.
On my five year old XS Max, which runs like a brand new phone with 20k+ photos and every text ive ever gotten since my iPhone 5.
EXACTLY! It’s so annoying and I remember you could disable it until you couldn’t for whatever stupid reason. Now I just leave the apps that I don’t use more than once every two weeks in there and search for them. Imagine actually wading through those folders looking for an app and not calling yourself a lunatic when Spotlight is so much faster.
I use it semi regularly because I’ve limited myself to just two pages of Home Screen, and spatially, it is faster to launch a couple of apps that I use semi regularly, but didn’t make it to the Home Screen. It is faster than Spotlight search for me because it is super fast to short swipe twice and tap the icon, instead of longer pulling down spotlight, orient the keyboard and wait for search results to populate. I understand this is not for everyone as most people I know have more than two screens of icons, and would take more time to get to the drawer, but at least it works for me.
I think another thing that might make it faster is if Focus based Home Screen is used, the amount of pages could be drastically reduced in various customized focus modes… but I’ve never gotten into that and frankly I’m inclined to think that’s a super power user mode very few outside of Apple dives into.
Edit: also spotlight search is slower when you’d need to change keyboard languages to search for a non-default language app, especially if the other language is slower/less familiar to input (Chinese and Japanese comes to mind for me).
Welcome, to the world of 2015!
Guess they’re doing the easy stuff now that the hard stuff is out of the way.
iOS lookin more like Android with each release.
And as a developer android is looking more and more like iOS as it becomes more restricted on what you can do.
The two are converging
Source: literally spending my day today dealing with every more restrictive APIs on newer Android versions
One of the ones I’m working on today I’m actually exempted from being disallowed its use, although it does still require some changes.
I’m still dreading the moment I submit the app though and their AI declares I don’t meet the requirements, and I go into the doom pit of their non existent support.
At least on Apple it’s possible to interact with a human pretty easily.
@Shadywack @Dex otherwise they are saying monopoly 😂
That’s not a feature already???
They’re getting this now? I could do that on my old LG G5.
G5? This has been thing since I got my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini in 2010
LOL
Only took them 18 major version releases. Maybe one day we’ll get to choose an alarm snooze timer than isn’t 9 minutes something.
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Eh, it’s the same on the Android side of the fence. There are big and small features that Google has been comically slow to crib from iOS.
I’ve definitely said “fucking finally” to things like overflow scrolling animations, and the “wild” idea that users should get 5+ of major OS releases.
Android still doesn’t have shake-to-undo. I use iOS and Android and switch between them regularly for work, and every time I typo something or accidentally delete a bunch of text on Android, it’s incredibly jarring to not have the undo capability.
I use Gboard as a keyboard and it’s got an undo button. Maybe try that (your mileage may vary)
Eh, it’s the same on the Android side of the fence. There are big and small features that Google has been comically slow to crib from iOS.
I’ve definitely said “fucking finally” to things like overflow scrolling animations,
Those things like overflow scrolling, keyboard peak, etc… were only held back because Apple would patent it prevent it from being put into Android and would file frivolous lawsuits against other phone manufacturers to try and get them not to use them, even when some android variants already had it built in before apple patented it in the first place. (I still facepalm at apple trying to sue others over a rounded rectangle shaped phone)
And those patents lawsuits only stopped because other phone companies called bullshit and started threatening apple with their own patents.
and the “wild” idea that users should get 5+ of major OS releases.
TL;DR on this point: not much of an issue anymore.
This isn’t an android/iOS thing, it’s a manufacturer thing. If a chip isn’t supported by it’s manufacturer, then no software on it can be supported. Different manufacturers had different support windows, but Qualcomm became notorious for making chips, then only supporting them for 2 years so they could sell a new “supported” one (and watch the money roll in). Once they saw other the larger players getting pissed off and poking around with the idea of making their own chips, Qualcomm quickly decided that they could support their chips for longer. Now they have to since both Google and Samsung have made public promises for 5-7 year support cycles. Of course, that hasn’t stopped other phones from already reaching 7 years of official support before. (A notable example being Fairphone 2 who used a Qualcomm chip while they were still in their shitty behaviour phase and managed to support it for 7 years, 2 years Qualcomm support then 5 years of their own support despite Qualcomm.)
Also, when Google was pissed at Qualcomm they decided to start modularising their OS and pulling chunks out of it out of needing direct hardware support. This means that even if chip support were to stop, it would only affect the background / lowest-level-invisible-to-the-user parts of the OS, and all the user visible parts of the OS could be updated independently (starting with Project Treble, and going all out with Project Mainline). This basically means that entire chunks of the OS can be updated the same way an app can be, early 2010 Qualcomm companies be damned.
This also has the weird thing of android not really being a “version” per se, one phone might have different components of Android 10/11/12/13/14/etc… running at the same time. The components themselves have their own versions.
How long did it android manufacturers take to implement features that actually matter, like filming in Dolby Vision / HDR? Fanboyism is not cool.
like filming in Dolby Vision / HDR
Listen, Android isn’t any better than iOS overall, but to pretend that this is something that matters to anything but edge cases on rare occasions is just lying.
Yeah my phone is literally unusable without the “feature” to place icons somewhere else 😂
If you don’t k ow how many users shoot videos with their phones, you might want to look up the stats. You are talking about stuff you don’t know anything about.
IDK man, HDR is a pretty big deal for me…
That makes you an edge case.
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No these are not basic features, most users don’t really care about it. You don’t think Apple does research? How can Apple have such an huge market share if those things are things that people are desperate for like you act? And no, I can’t take a full camera on my backpack trips, every ounce counts. Plenty of people shoot with their phone, don’t act like you don’t know this.
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SERIOUSLY. I’m currently stuck with an iPhone and was so annoyed when I found out you just couldn’t define the snooze duration. Like, what?
What an amazing cutting edge breakthrough. Truly frontier technology. The mind boggles.
I thought we’d seen it all when they finally let people change the default notification sound in iOS 17!
I’m sorry, I’m browsing from /all. You don’t actually mean they only started allowing notification sound customization 17 versions into their OS, right? You’re making a joke?
Because holy hell, what basic functionality that should have been included over a decade ago.
You’ve always been able to change it for built in applications (messages, mail, phone, etc.). I assume the above poster was joking? Or maybe there’s some nuanced feature they added around it recently.
You could only change certain applications, if they allowed it. But the general, default notification sound was decided by Apple and couldn’t be changed until 17.2.
You could change certain notification sounds, like for iMessage, the built-in mail app, ringtones, etc. Individual apps could set their own custom notification sound as well, or enable a setting that allowed users to change them. But there was also a default, “general” notification sound set by Apple that would be used by any app that hadn’t specified a notification sound, and that could not be changed by the user. It was perhaps the single most annoying thing when I switched from Android.
More specifically, it looks like the change came in iOS 17.2 after Apple changed the default notification sound for everyone in iOS 17 from the one they’d used for years. I guess enough people hated the change and wanted to go back that they finally gave users an option to pick their own.
Still can’t change the Apple Watch default sound, apparently.
You could change the defaults for a number of things, but not the miscellaneous stuff. The “default” category is new.
It’s really weird, because Apple has been selling tones forever, and they had a tone selection component already. It’s like someone just never prioritized the day of work in their jira backlog.
I will be shocked if they figure out how to use MP3 files as notification sounds. Then I’ll believe we are truly living in the future.
Now that’s just fantasy talk
What was Android’s most recent groundbreaking feature, and when was it released?
Nobody said android is making leaps and bounds recently either. Just a stupid joke about how long it took them to add this very basic feature lol
Oh, you mean the same stupid joke we can read in literally every comment thread about Apple adding features to iOS?
Oh… you’re one of those apple fans.
Oh… you’re one of those critics.
Lol dude I made a joke and you are clearly just taking it personally. Showing clear anger over phones.
Not sure where I showed ‘clear anger’ but you do you.
I’ll believe it when i see it
Oooh wow will they let you change your brightness and font too?
I can’t imagine the thundering applause the mindless morons will erupt into when Tim Cook announces on stage that you’ll be able to customize your home screen.
iPhones are super popular…? What a fucking joke
It’s not the applause of awe, it’s the applause of “fucking finally.”
Same thing happens after Google events. The last big feature that made everyone lose their shit was Google deciding to actually update their phones for more than a couple years. Shitty update support has been something iOS users have mocked Android about for a many many years.
There are other examples, but the point is that both ecosystems have reached the point where they’re just cloning each other 90% of the time.
Not really, android typically has software features 5+ years in advance of iphone. Most of the “cloning” was done in the first couple years smartphones existed.
I feel like I know how this thread ends. It’s happened before and it will happen again.
Two folks go tit for tat and list out features that each brand clones from each other during their last event, and the events before that.
In the end we both lose for spending the evening arguing about two operating systems that we’re both using for the same exact shit posting.
Nah I definitely don’t care enough to do that
We’re going to need 50CCs of fresh grass stat.
How often do you go outside and how long do you spend out there?
I walk about three or four miles a day and now that it’s spring I’m gardening most days too.
Ok I walk about 7 miles a day and when the weather is nice that’s mostly outdoors. So yeah I don’t need to “touch grass” since I already do.
Well then maybe therapy might be a valid next step. Good luck!
You’re defending apple on the Internet and recommending therapy to a stranger based on a sentence so I don’t think I’d get too high and mighty.
I didn’t defend, let alone mention Apple? You’re calling people morons and making up little scenarios to make yourself mad, all for a phone you don’t even use. No ones high or mighty, you just obviously seem like you’d benefit from talking to someone.
How will Apple users now manage with so many decisions to make??
