Kremlin says hypersonic missile strike on Ukraine was a warning to the west
The Kremlin said on Friday that a strike on Ukraine using a newly developed hypersonic ballistic missile was designed to warn the west that Moscow will respond to moves by the US and the UK to let Kyiv strike Russia with their missiles.
According to Agence France-Presse (AFP), the Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, was speaking a day after Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said Moscow had fired the new missile – the Oreshnik or ‘hazel tree’- at a Ukrainian military facility.
Peskov said Russia had not been obliged to warn the US about the strike, but had informed the US 30 minutes before the launch anyway. Putin remained open to dialogue, Peskov said.
Last I checked it was NATO that started launching missiles into Russia escalating the conflict, but do go on champ.
I suppose it’s also NATOs fault Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place?
Yes, as many western experts explained in great detail for many decades now. Yet, we still have ignoramuses running around pretending that’s not the case. Even Stoltenberg has admitted this on record at this point, time to update your script
He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders.
He can get fucked.
It’s really hard to tell why Russia might start swinging when the west not only breaks every treaty it’s ever signed with it, but then has the gall to turn around and go “you can get fucked” right afterwards
nick, my dude. Save your sanity.
Most everyone here agrees that ‘Y’ sucks, and you can’t reason with em
“We didn’t accept his demands for how we protect member states so he went to war” isn’t the defense you seem to think it is
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One problem being that Ukraine isn’t a member state. 🤡
From:
Last I checked it was NATO that started launching missiles into Russia escalating the conflict, but do go on champ.
To:
One problem being that Ukraine isn’t a member state. 🤡
So which one is it?
Would you also say that North Korea is attacking Ukraine since it’s North Korean artillery shells being lobbed into Ukraine?
What’s the contradiction there? NATO wasn’t directly involved in the war in Ukraine, now it is. What part of that are you struggling to understand?
Meanwhile, zero actual evidence for DPRK attacking Ukraine, but I guess that’s not going to stop western intellectuals from talking about it.
Meanwhile, zero actual evidence for DPRK attacking Ukraine, but I guess that’s not going to stop western smoothbrains from talking about it.
I forgot we live in “what I don’t like is obviously not true” land here, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, for example actual footage of North Korean soldiers arriving in Russian training camps, Putin himself doesn’t even denies it, but anything to lick some boot I guess.
You’re not arguing in good faith, as exemplified by your double standards regarding foreign involvement, so I know that you’re gonna write something about “manipulated footage”, ask for sources you could easily Google yourself and overall try to move the overall framing of the conversation to something else because the exchange of information is not the point for you.
I have neither the strength nor the patience to argue with utterly deranged idiots whose worldview would make Marx roll over in his grave.
Hey, with my modhat on,
Please provide evidence of DPRK troops fighting in Ukraine
I forgot we live in “what I don’t like is obviously not true” land here, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, for example actual footage of North Korean soldiers arriving in Russian training camps, Putin himself doesn’t even denies it, but anything to lick some boot I guess.
Please provide evidence of DPRK troops fighting in Ukraine, I’ll wait. 🤡
You’re not arguing in good faith, as exemplified by our double standards regarding foreign involvement, so I know that you’re gonna write something about “manipulated footage”, ask for sources you could easily Google yourself and overall try to move the overall framing of the conversation to something else because the exchange of information is not the point for you.
You wouldn’t know what arguing in good faith was if it hit you in the face bud.
I have neither the strength nor the patience to argue with utterly deranged idiots whose worldview would make Marx roll over in his grave.
Bye.
Don’t call people smoothbrains please, the problem isn’t anatomical it is ideological
fair
What’s the member state?
Why is Ukraine the West’s Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer - Date: Sep 26, 2015
John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility.
Watch this and think for yourself. A very similar comparison is Cuban Missile Crisis 1962.
Yes lmao, if they didn’t ignore the minsk agreements and do a coup (maidan) to install a CIA handpicked government, this would not have happened.
Pretty much, yes. If one great power keeps threatening and encroaching on another and undermines all attempts at diplomacy, it’s pretty obvious what is going to happen.
Yes the greatest threat, if you attack me and my friends we’ll attack you. Very scary so aggressive
Me and my friends, just standing here next to you, brandishing our weapons…
As a deterrent, because I’ve never seen a NATO country attack Russia but have seen Russia invade plenty of countries not in NATO.
It’s almost like countries want to join NATO to avoid being invaded by Russia.
Operation Gladio by Paul L. Williams
Gladio: NATO’s Dagger Through the Heart of Europe by Richard Cottrell
*details on NATO false-flag terrorism in Italy to frame communists and rig elections against them (so that Italy wouldn’t increase ties to the USSR chiefly), NATO Nazi stay-behind armies in numerous states that were used to crush left-wing movements, etc.
How NATO Worked With Fascists to Crush the Left in Turkey
NATO controlled the very forces in the countries that would guarantee its stay there, rigging elections against and terrorizing movements that could potentially throw them out. You are sanitizing a Nazi fascist organization by omitting this aspect and simplifying NATO membership to a straightforwardly consensual relationship and I think you should be banned, along with everyone who liked your comment if that’s the policy now.
Hey neighbor, you don’t mind if I invite over my serial killer friend with “1488 gas all Devorlons” tattooed across his forehead to stay over for a while, right? Btw we’re building a deer hunting stand in my yard with a perfect view of the couch you post from, don’t freak out about it though. It’s just a couple of guys hanging out.
I’ll also be ethnic cleansing some people on my side of our border…
Yep, just you and your friend in your property, as long as you don’t attack it doesn’t matter.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-usa-idUSKBN2BV2Z3/
We promise we won’t do anything like the last several times<3
You genuinely think that someone who specifically wants to kill you making preparations from which they can kill you is fine, as long as they don’t actually kill you? You’re not a tiny bit bothered by the possibility of them actually killing you?
Goddamn, was my brain ever this smooth??
Mine was and am very very embarrassed really
No, Putin woke up one day and felt like doing a little “full-scale” invasion.
As a treat
I suppose it’s also NATOs fault Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place?
Yes.
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Any time you end a thought with “so therefore threatening nuclear holocaust is justified” you’re the bad guys.
The fact that you don’t understand how idiotic that statement is says volumes about you. Imagine for a second what would happened if Russia started lobbing missiles into Florida from Cuba. Oh wait, we don’t have to imagine we know exactly what would happen. Killer clowns like you are gonna be the reason our civilization ends.
Nah the end of our civilization will be the dogs that roll over to daddy Putin like you.
That’s right, the grotesque excuse for a civilization that the rabid dogs in the west built is coming to an end.
The USA literally has a torture camp in Cuba with admittedly innocent people being held for life.
I swear to god Americans know more about the Marvel movies than about their fucking state.
You’re literally the one nitpicking the analogy lmao.
Anyway, keep up the cope, gringo. Enjoy your cost of living crisis while yall froth at the mouth about Raytheon-appointed scapegoat.
Burgerland already occupies part of Cuban territory, so the invasion is just frozen at this point.
During WWII, America shocked the world when they revealed their nuclear capacity by dropping not one, but two atomic bombs on strictly civilian targets. Since then, they have maintained a first strike policy, meaning, their plans for their nuclear arsenal are not defensive, but aggressive and the highest form of escalation.
During the Korean War, Dugless MacArthur asked the joint chiefs of staff for approval to use nuclear weapons on China, to the tune of 30, to 50 nuclear strikes. They approved. MacArthur’s goal was to create a radioactive no-mans land across Russia and China to act as a buffer zone between after the war was “won”.
During the JFK Administration, they drew up plans for nuclear first strike against the Soviet Union if conflict in Berlin turned violent.
The Nixon administration drew up plans to drop nuclear bombs on North Vietnam.
Just this week, news broke that the Biden administration is considering giving Ukraine nukes. “Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union.” You’ll tell me this is strictly defensive, then I beg you to consider reading why the Soviet Union was giving Cuba nuclear weapons during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The only place threatening a Nuclear Holocaust is the United States. They remain today the only country on earth to have dropped not one, but two atomic bombs on war targets (read civilian populations).
There were some anecdotes I remember reading (that I’d really appreciate some sources on, if ever I get around to investigating) about how the Soviet Union during the Cold War maintained a steely eyed, ice cold resolve as the US was doing everything they could to spark a nuclear war. Pieces I remember are times the US flew bombers at Moscow, watching for Soviet reaction, hoping to find out the range ability of Soviet radar.
And then the Cuban Missile Crisis of course
America, the only country ever to drop nukes on two cities full of people as a terror tactic, has a nuclear first strike policy and is therefore threatening the entire world with nuclear holocaust at all times. I agree, we’re the bad guys.
