Okay, stay confidently incorrect in the Five Eyes corporate media bubble then 👍
That’s pathetic. That’s a pathetic misunderstanding of geopolitics and the nature of modern intelligence infrastructure.
You’re still in the mindset of “Having SIGINT = bad guys”.
As if places like Russia, and North Korea would just be magical kingdoms of freedom and accountability if they just didn’t have signals intelligence!
That’s stupid. What differentiates the west (much like what differentiates good media sources from bad) - is accountability, and oversight.
Anyways I’ll let you get back to your petty fears and misunderstanding the basic lay of the informational and geopolitical landscapes. Maybe if Trump magically wins the election Glenn Greenwald will spend Trump’s time in office attacking the Democrats and defending Trump and Russia again. I’m sure you’d enjoy that.
The crypto-rightwing are just like that. Aren’t you. Semi-pro-authoritarians who don’t understand what causes freedom, and think it’s something about being a soldier of fortune for a foreign state, or something that comes from “the barrel of a gun”. Idiots believing they’re freedom fighters popping some imaginary info-bubble.
You don’t know how lucky you are, or how good you have it, or why… That’s your problem, and your weakness.
I know right, the cowardly mods on .ml just nuked my comment because they can’t handle that perspective… I didn’t swear at you (and you know this), I didn’t aim to be insulting - it’s just indicative of the fragility of the marxist left today when it comes to discourse they can’t combat, compute, and have no reasonable response to.
Users have to be protected because apparently they need to be kept in a state of false consciousness for a Marxist left to continue. Which as Marxists you should all be worried about (it hints at an issue with Marxist party politics). But you lot may well not understand what I’ve said.
Good luck having your eyes protected for purely ideological reasons… And good Marxists should know - he wasn’t a huge fan of ideology or respecting it as causal or desirable.
He was very practical, hence concrete historical materialism.
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Yes, our complete isolation 😂 As if we weren’t & aren’t still exposed to exactly the same life-long indoctrination, education, and propaganda as everyone else in the imperial core. But somehow we, who looked beyond the cultural hegemony in which we’re surrounded, are the ones living in a bubble.
My comment applied to all nation states, that’s why they all have intelligence agencies.
And good Marxists should know - he wasn’t a huge fan of ideology or respecting it as causal or desirable.
He was very practical, hence concrete historical materialism.
This is what happens when you don’t read Marx and just sort of assume what Marx said based on a literal interpretation of his ideological labels.
Marx was not, like liberals, laboring under the delusion that ideology is something that can simply be escaped. Paraphrasing Zizek (who I hate, but he has some good points), it is when you believe that you are free of ideology that you are most firmly under ideological control, because in such circumstances ideology is necessarily acting on you without your awareness of it. To be aware of your ideology allows you to engage with it and modify it and so on.
He also recognized, like anyone who spends a few seconds thinking about what would become sociology (it wasn’t really around in his time) that ideology does cause things. His distinction is that ideology is superstructural, it was an abstract product of the concrete base that is material conditions, but the two of them exist in a dialectical relationship with each other. Any base will produce a superstructure so long as that base has people who relate to each other, and this superstructure, in essence, is ideology.
What Marx hated with respect to ideology, and this is the closest you are to being even superficially right, is the idea that was and is popular among liberals (and others, such as utopian socialists) that ideology alone is enough to transform the world, that it acts independently of material circumstances and people will just freely be moved by what is “right” in a completely absolute sense irrespective of their historical or current conditions. Again, these things have a dialectical relationship, and the superstructure cannot fly freely, unbounded by the base, any more than the base can fly freely (by human hands) when the superstructure stays in place. They will only make progress in the context of each other.
Edit: For the sake of being more complete, I will say more explicitly that the base has primacy, which is why the superstructure comes from it – there can be no culture in out in space where no one is. It has primacy and its change – e.g. by scientific inventions – tends to drag the superstructure along with it, but those inventions are only created thanks to the superstructural elements of preserved and transmitted knowledge and the desire to, for example, develop production.
It’s very difficult to talk about dialectics because I often want to address both sides simultaneously even though it can’t really be done.
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You’re so desperate to score points that you’re now acting like I’m a fan of Zizek who wants him to lead the revolution (?) when I explicitly said that I hate him. The whole thing is just a screed of nonsense to compensate for the fact that you blatantly got Marx wrong. I wasn’t bringing up dialectics to flex, I brought it up because your mistake was so basic that it was necessary to start there (and I just enjoy talking about Marxism, admittedly).
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Good luck with that, @Zagorath@aussie.zone
