They borked some features which I used and haven’t fixed them yet.
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I use the fullscreen start menu. I can’t select search results with keyboard anymore.
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Inverting window colors doesn’t work for me anymore, after they set the default to wayland. (I used it for app’s which don’t have a dark theme)
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Focus stealing prevention (global setting and window rules) doesn’t work anymore.
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window positioning guidelines keep flickering in and out of existence all day, even when I don’t resize any windows.
3 has stopped working properly on X11 but it works on Wayland. The only reason I switched to Wayland. Of course, now I have different problems but focus stealing prevention works 🙂
Hmm interesting. I am on wayland for sure, but I tried to make it work for an hour yesterday.
How I noticed it:
I started an install process in pamac gui, then I tabbed to browser window and typed some stuff. Pamac finished downloads and asked for confirmation, the default being cancel and me typing ENTER cancelled it. Mouse was on the browser window and each app was on a different monitor.
I was able to repeatedly reproduce it by doing the same. I have set focus stealing prevention to high, which is described as focus only being stolen when the same type of window is active.
Is my issue maybe that both ran through xwayland? I’ll have to check that later.
You might want to report these. In the last This Week in KDE, it says:
This week we put some of the final Plasma 6.0 bugs to rest, and continued working towards Plasma 6.1
I mean, theoretically, this could mean that they decided these issues are a WONTFIX, but I imagine, they rather just don’t know of them.
At least the two I care about most already have an open issue in the bugtracker, which I am following for updates.
I’ll search for the other two when I am bothered enough and report them if they aren’t
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I recently switched from being a long time GNOME user over to KDE Neon. It has been a nearly flawless experience.
My biggest complaint so far is the lack of NFS support in Dolphin, which I use for my NAS. GNOME Files had native support for NFS. Now I have to manually mount from CLI and then it’ll show up in Dolphin (eventually I’ll setup fstab, but haven’t done it yet).
How is experience with mounted samba drives?
I found that apps don’t see them easily, which is a usability problem.
Argh I found out the same thing about NFS! I was so confused!
You can still put it in FStab though, if you want it accessible on boot. :)
Yeah I’m going to do that when I use my machine next. Was just nice having it as a favorite shortcut on the side and only mounting it when I needed it.
Have you considered smb? Dolphin natively supports it.
I have both but prefer NFS over it for speed. SMB before multichannel used to choke pretty hard on Linux. It’s better now, but NFS is still the better protocol.
I tried it on my laptop. Apps that used to run without any problems would terminate randomly. I also tried it on desktop with AMD video card and didn’t observe this issue.
Overall i went back to gnome 3 days later.
IMO the best Linux desktop experience that you can get right now
99% positive. Wayland works flawlessly. HDR didn’t cause issues (all AMD hardware).
The only issues I have off the top of my head are
1: Some icons in the system tray and system settings menu (the ‘Clipboard’ icon on the dock and the ‘Touchscreen’ tab in settings, and a couple others) display as a blank rectangle sometimes. Other times, they display as they should. Haven’t even bothered looking for a solution as it doesn’t effect usability in the slightest.
2: Certain pop up menus for dock applets, ie the Bluetooth applet, display incorrectly. I actually saw a post of another user having this issue, where the window only shows as a small square, and can require a re-log to actually make it work.
Other than these minor glitches, nothing has given me any issues.
To 2.: I only had that issue appear when launching Firefox or Vivaldi. Might have been a custom widget. Wiped my install and now the issue is gone? Sadly wasn’t able to diagnose the issue any further
I have no what extra it provides, all I know is I was debugging for a while after the update, and I had to make compromises because of bugs I couldn’t fix. Soooo
It’s like al KDE projects IMHO. Good on the surface and works well. But use it for any length of time and you will find problems, unfinished areas, or parts where it was implemented without considering why it was like this in the first place.
For example, plug your 1080p laptop into a display with 4K and watch are your desktop icon gets sorted by a-z randomly instead of keeping the order you had it.
Or try to add a calendar even to your system by clicking the calendar which is found in the date and time on the taskbar.
Online accounts added to the system do not integrate into other KDE apps requiring additional signin.
I feel this is probably caused from KDE’s team being small, but having a large suite of apps.
Sounds like you have a pretty okay experience but some specific things don’t work - please take some time to report bugs if you haven’t yet!
I’ve moved away from KDE for a while now. Been using Cinnamon since.
And most of my “bugs” are more missing features than anything.
Poor integration with Google was a major reason to go back to Gnome.
What’s the value of to do app, calendar, events if I can’t have it synchronized across devices.
It’s pretty good! I wish System Settings was less confusing/overwhelming and it had more graphics tablet options, though.
Anecdotal, but for me worked a lot better with my monitors (both the same exact model though). On plasma 5 they had trouble waking up after suspending
Really needs more stability and to solidify its modifying features, not have them a bit everywhere. Really cant have a black screen bug every time I put my PC/Laptop to sleep
Absolutely unusable for one big reason: still no good tiling options in KDE. They got me hopeful with their tiled area system but then dropped the ball on execution. An OS without tiling is functionally unusable for real work. There aren’t even any good KWin scripts for it. At least Windows has stuff like FancyWM. Will not be using any time soon. GNOME, with the ability to install Pop Shell 2, is by far the superior DE, and it’s not even close, and I’ll stick to that for most things and a WM/compositor (in this case Hyprland) on my main machine. KDE is and will continue to be trash until they can add true tiling support. Might as well some 1980s looking WM like OpenBox. That’s what KDE is. Old and unusable. Nothing else they “improve” matters since the core of operations doesn’t function.
I don’t really want to give some of your hyperbolic statements credibility by replying, but - I’ve been loving Mudeer for tiling. I’m not sure if it qualifies as a true tiling window manager and my setup does straddle the line between tiling and floating, but it works great for me.
I’ll give it a look
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Chill dude. Bismuth for Plasma 5 was amazing, and Polonium is shaping up to be a great succesor on Plasma 6. This is open source. You can fight and support your cause. But your attitude would make Pop Shell devs burn their own project down out of fear 😅.
Bismuth for Plasma 5
Nah. I couldn’t get behind Bismuth either. You had rigid ways you could arrange your windows with no way to adjust.
For instance, you can’t get a layout like this with Bismuth (or any dynamic tilers that I know of, i.e. dynamic tilers aren’t worth using):
--------------------------------------- | A | B | | |--------------| |----------------------| C | | E | F |--------------| | | | J | K | ---------------------------------------
The closest in Bismuth would be using master and slave like:
--------------------------------------- | A | B | | |--------------| | | C | |----------------------|--------------| | E | J | |----------------------|--------------| | F | K | ---------------------------------------
Which isn’t nearly as useful
I gave Plasma a genuine, honest try, both 5 and 6, and it was a complete let down.
But your attitude would make Pop Shell devs burn their own project down out of fear
Nah bc the Pop Shell devs have done an AMAZING job. The new COSMIC will make KDE and GNOME look like pet projects when it drops.
Looks really sleek with the new floating panels, and being able to turn a panel into an icon task manger is still nice, and the new overview window is great for workflow.
However multi monitor support is still garbage. Like 3/4 of programs will never remember their size and position, so you have to make a never ending list of kwin window rules, which then end up affecting other windows you don’t want to. Other things like right click menus will show up on the wrong monitor way off in a corner get old real fast. Its like the cartoon spiderman meme of 3 Spiderman’s pointing at each other. Qt6, Wayland, and kwin all pointing the blame of why its like the way it is, while bug reports rack up another year of no fixes.
HDR having a toggle and working is really nice, but when it was on and I booted up a game, the in game options wouldn’t allow me to turn on HDR.
the HDR by my understanding is basically just automatic conversion, not actually support for programs to use HDR on their own. I’ve been using gamescope to run games in native HDR.
I have not had a single issue with a right click menu or a window not remembering size or position with multi monitors on tumbleweed
Works very well. Only issue is missing ported extensions and the cursors lol.
For some reason all cursors made for plasma 5 are blurry, so the existing “breeze plasma 5 cursors” dont work that well.
And I miss “minimal desktop switcher” as the Plasma 6 alternative just makes Plasma desktop crash for some reason.