I bought 175 g pack of salami which had 162 g of salami as well.
That would be outright illegal. It’s more likely that op lives in lower humidity areas and non air tight food looses some water weight, or that op needs to calibrate their scale or buy a new one.
Yeah, uh… you realize there are net weight tolerances, right? Companies aren’t expected to get exactly the same weight for every single item they put out. And it’s not really possible for certain products.
This though, is likely pushing the limit.
Op is talking like everything he weighs is shorted. The tolerances you speak of mean that sometimes you’re a bit over, and sometimes you’re a bit under.
But if my 40 pack of pizza rolls stops at 39, ima riot.
So I eat a pizza roll or two here and there. I pack most of the bags full. And besides — they’re delicious. A man’s gotta eat. 39’s close to 40. 38, 37 at worst. You’re not gonna see a bag coming off my line with less than the full 36 let me tell you.
Yeah. I do prefer em frozen. Delicious.
Fwiw, I just put the contents of two packets of pasta on my own scale. The first was 1g under, the other 2g over.
I’m all for scrutinising companies, but I don’t think Big Pasta is trying to cheat us here.
You reply to the wrong person or something?
Typical Big Noodle theft tactics
I worked on a manufacturing line for 4oz pepper cans
They had a machine that weighed them and kicked out underweight ones.
The tolerances were horrible.
McCormick was 3.9 I think
Black and white can 3.5. !!!
Yes both were made on the same exact line
If everything you’re measuring is lower than expected, you should check the calibration of the scale. Weigh 2 or 3 things you know the weight of that are at different ranges of weights, light, heavy, medium, and see if any are off. Often a scale will be accurate at only within a certain range and get progressively less accurate as the weight increases or decreases from that range.
See also: 2x4s
(how is lumber measured in Europe? Are 2x4s called 2x4s? or 50x100s?)
They reverse it in England, 4x2s
Not surprising but: metric units, and they are the units of the finished product not some arbitrary historical size lumber used to be
I’m starting to see some drinks and packages of food even have calories varied. For example, I’ll buy a monster java drink of the irish blend flavor. One can will be 190 and another can will be 180. They’ll both have the same nutrients.
We are seriously now beginning to slip in keeping this shit consistent and it worries me.
I was kinda confused why everyone’s sucking the D of the corps here, and comments reiterating stuff already said.
But then I reminded myself at least 150 up voted this and all is right again.
Some of us work for corps and see people trying to do their best to help people every day. It’s tempting to think there’s this hidden layer of control somewhere, where the evil people are. Maybe it’s there, I dunno. To me the evil people seem to be spread throughout.
Yeah there’s a pull to, but that doesn’t mean the utility function maximizes at using people. Because there are other factors, like one’s reputation, and competition from other employers and suppliers, that shift the maximum back toward being good.
There’s no reason to think that our concept of “good” didn’t evolve, and isn’t actually the optimal strategy for accumulating success.
I do, however, also know the evil humanity is capable of when dehumanization can be achieved. I think that people can get caught up in less important things when they don’t see the people they effect. And the bigger an organization gets, the more layers there are between the top and the bottom, and the more tempting it is at the top to do something anti-human, to sacrifice the people for some lesser goal like money or “fighting the good fight” or “breaking this record or whatever abstract thing the dehumanizer decides to sacrifice their people to pursuing.
I agree with you there’s all sorts of evil inside corporations. I just don’t think that necessarily comes from profit motive. I think it comes from their size and a culture within them that separates management enough that they can dehumanize people under their own authority.
People can be used up and manipulated and put through unhealthy scenarios that degrade them, in all sorts of organizations: corporations, armies, mobs, communes, churches, sports teams, everything. All those organizational structures can make machines that chew people up and spit them out, and they get more likely to as they get larger.
It’s more like people here are engineers and understand the concept of standard variance.
Me no understand, me say bad. No value me want, they bad. If they don’t like things that they can’t understand probably stoo using internet and technology in general for the good. Go back to the good old rock and stone.
So if moisture is a factor, what do you propose otherwise?
I don’t think it is counts as D sucking of big corp if someone corrects invalid information. There are plenty of bad things corps do, we don’t have to fabricate false claims, it’s dangerous.
Keep stroking yourself, my akshually crowd
I really hope you read and considered the top reply to your post. Science is a good thing
Holy shit dude. Did you ever see me contradict their statements? No. I’m purely talking about the pathetic amount of effort people are taking to take the side of corporations. Like someone already posted a comment about water. But no someone else has to make a paragraph long post about it. Whole fucking cares. Go do something useful with your time. Go to a conservative sub and convince people their wrong about racism and welfare. Don’t waste your time debating fucking noodle weight.
I think it’s important to see that people might enjoy nerding out for a bit on an obscure bit of science. Not everything has to be a fight to take down the establishment. What you see as a useless waste of time some people find joy in. Not everything has to be about an evil corporate ploy. It doesn’t make everyone else stupid wrong shills for thinking differently than you. Fuck the racists, but also enjoy some fun, meaningless contemplations
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The real crime here is that you bought Barilla instead of DeCecco.
De Cecco, Garofalo, or Voiello.
If you have to get Barilla, at least get their fancier one (Al Bronzo or at least Collezione).
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Net Weight vs Gross Weight
Aren’t the figures on the package meant to be net weight though?
I believe so too.
But maybe that’s not a legal requirement everywhere.
From the packagings I remember, wherever the package weight is significant, “Net Weight” is explicitly stated. So, when I see it not written, I don’t assume.
OP, are you American?
“shrinkflation” or smth
How do we know your scale is right?
Also just as plausible that there’s still some broken noodle crumbs and fragments stuck in the bottom flaps of the box.
Huh? Well how do we know that any scale at all is right?
Pretty sure that every modern scale has a “tare” button that resets the weight and zeroes everything out.
That is only single point calibration. You want more than that in case the transfer function is non-linear. Ideally at least two for the extremes of range.
Basically imagine if y does not equal x, say y = x -0.01*x + b. Your tare is going to adjust b such that at x = 0 you get y equals 0. That doesn’t fix x is equal to 900. At 900 you would get 891.
Generally speaking for weight you have differential or integral non-linearity. You fix both by multiple calibration points. Which leads to the range transition problem but whatever. No excuse anymore with FPGAs.
Taring isn’t the same as calibration. Every scale should have instructions on its tolerance (± x grams) and a calibration weight. You’ll have to buy the calibration weight separately.
Well how do we know that any scale at all is right?
My lab has weights that get calibrated against a NIST standard annually. We use those weights to perform daily quality control that our scale is accurate (to +/- 0.01g). If the quality control fails then we recalibrate the scale.
Yeah, but if it measures every 1 gram at 0.98 gram, it will display less in the end
While it’s hard to prove that it’s been done correctly a lot of scales do come with calibration weights.
A lot of cheap kitchen scales are also just crap. Talk to your local drug dealer about what brand of scale might be right for you.
Why I like my mechanical one. I can recalibrate it myself. Heck I taught my 10 year old to do it, it isn’t rocket surgery.
My drug scale is my kitchen scale is my drug scale
You can also weigh water, 100ml weighs 100 grams
DONT FORGET TO SUBTRACT THE WEIGHT OF THE BEAKER
But how do you know that your measurement of 100mL of water is accurate?
Just weigh it, duh.
There are no moving parts so there should be very little drift.
Just use a scale and measure 100g of water